Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs)
General FAQ
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For the analytical systems, there is no specific limit on how many samples you can run other than those imposed by sample capacity of the instrumentation and how many other users need time. You cannot run your samples in preference or to the exclusion of anyone else. You have to share. However, if the machine is free you can use it non-stop. We want the machines running 24/7. They cost almost the same if they are working or not so we may as well run them as much as possible.
For the “Omics” systems (proteomics and lipidomics) the subscription cost covers up to 500 samples before you become a “super-user”. At that point you will need to pay a second subscription, etc.
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Yes. But we do not normally work that way. We usually find that one or two samples inevitably turn into 4 or 5 samples plus controls and multiple replicates. Also, a simple mistake or modification can also mean you need to repeat the entire process. By that time, you may as well have paid the 3-month cost and done as many controls and repeats as you like.
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We can, but generally this is not how we work. We would have to provide a project quote and it will be much more expensive. There are plenty of other proteomic and mass spectrometry facilities around that can do this sort of thing.
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Yes and no, depending on what you are doing.
For the simple analytical machines, YES, we teach you how to run the instruments. It's very easy to analyse the mass of a single peptide or chemical product. We have more than 60 people who routinely use the Agilent QTOF to do quality control on their recombinant proteins. More than 100 use the chemistry Orbitrap to test their organic synthesis or peptide synthesis. It's not hard at all.
For Proteomics and Lipidomics, the instrumentation is more complex and so you prepare the samples, but we run the machines for you. Most people don’t have the time or interest to learn how to get the most from these machines. If you want to know how the machine works, then we can explain, but most people do not care. We have a sample queue and we send you a message to let you know when to bring the samples to us. Once complete, our computer system will automatically send you the data when its done.
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Yes. The only difference is that external academics pay more for the same thing – which is still an absurdly low price.
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Yes. Industry groups are welcome and we have a number of current industry clients. The cost depends on what is required. For more details, contact us.
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Yes. This is our primary purpose. Our staff are often part of PhD committees and we often co-supervise students.
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Yes. Our staff are involved in many projects and we are often included as AIs or CIs on grant proposals. We can help with grant writing where required.
Samples and tests FAQ
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We are principally a proteomics facility, so any protein mass spectrometry experiment you can think of, we are here to help:
- Gel spots
- Phosphorylation
- Ubiquitination
- Comparison of all proteins in a sample
- SILAC
- iTRAQ
- TMT
- Dimethylation
- TAILS
- Quantitation
- Immunoprecipitation of protein complexes
- Disulfide arrangements
- Post-translational modifications
We also run an instrument for the chemists so they can test their synthetic products – did I get the synthesis right? If you are working with, or want to look at metabolites like amino acids, lipids sugars, etc. then you should contact the laboratory next door to us Metabolomics Australia.
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Yes. We have a dedicated mass spectrometer set up for the analysis of intact proteins. It is accurate to about 0.5 Daltons on a 50,000 Da protein. This instrument is able to spot a single disulfide bond in a recombinant protein. So, not only can you check that you expressed the correct protein, you can also get structural information that would never be seen on an SDS-PAGE gel. Not only that, it's faster than running a gel. It takes about 15 minutes to analyse one intact protein. If you want to know how the machine works, then we can explain, but most people just want the result. So we can show you how to open a pre-made method and load a sample, then press the "go" button. Simple!
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Yes. We have a dedicated mass spectrometer for the chemistry groups to test their synthetic products. Mass accuracy is good to about 2 decimal places. If you want to know how the machine works, then we can explain, but most people just want the result. So we can show you how to open a pre-made method and load a sample, then press the "go" button. Simple!
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This depends on your samples. We teach our users to use lots of different software options depending on what is needed. We have computer hot desks in the office area and we teach you how to do the analysis – at any time you can ask questions and get the help you need to get the work done.
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No. There are other groups specialising in this area and at the present time we do not have the resources to do this kind of work.
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Yes and yes.
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No. If you are working with, or want to look at metabolites like amino acids, short-chain fatty acids, sugars, etc., then you should contact our sister Lab Metabolomics Australia {link to the new MA page}. MA and our lab (MMSP) both share the same lab space here at Bio21. MA is funded by Bioplatforms to work with Metabolites whereas our lab (MMSP) is University of Melbourne-funded to do things that are NOT metabolites.
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No. We are an open access lab which means it is too risky to do that sort of work.
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No. We are slowly progressing towards ISO certification but no current certification.
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No. We are an open access lab which means it is too risky to do that sort of work.